White Bird

First of three search expeditions for the White Bird, the aircraft flown by Nungessor & Coli, who vanished on transatlantic flight in 1927. October, 1984.

Early on May 8, 1927, twelve days before Charles Lindberg was to make his historic flight, two famous WWI French flying aces took off from Le Bourget airfield near Paris on an east to west flight across the Atlantic to New York. They were one of the first who successfully managed to get off the ground with a fuel-over laden airplane and soar out over the Atlantic.

Charles Nungesser and Francois Coli were already the toast of France. Nungesser had shot down 44 German planes and barnstormed in Europe and the United States after the war. Coli was also an ace, but later gained fame on a long distance flight to Africa.

After takeoff the L’Oiseau blanc (the White Bird), a Levasseur bi-wing, open cockpit aircraft powered by a 450 horsepower Lorraine-Dietrich 12 cylinder engine, dropped its landing gear and flew out over the English Channel. It was last sighted heading over the ocean from the eastern shore of Ireland.

The White Bird then simply vanished and was never seen again. It was not until 1980 when Gunnar Hanson, a freelance writer, researched and published an article on a man by the name of Anson Berry who was living near Machias, Maine, in 1927 and who claimed to hear an aircraft fly over his isolated camp late in the afternoon of May 9th, 1927. Anson, told several friends and neighbors he had heard the plane overhead in the overcast and but could not see it. He also stated the engine sounded erratic and it sounded to him as if the plane crashed in the distance.

Gunner dug deeper and found a number of other reports and a few sightings beginning in Newfoundland and traveling on a line south past Nova Scotia and into the coastal region of Maine. He then ran onto a report by a hunter who said he’d found an old engine buried in the ground sometime in 1950. The site was within a mile of where Anson Berry heard the plane pass.

Gunner organized a group, including the hunter, a gentleman by the name of Ray Beck of Chatham, New York. Coincidentally, Bob Fleming and I were also researching the mysterious flight and heard about Gunner. I contacted him, offered to fund some of the search and flew up to Bangor, Maine.

The country is beautiful, and in the bog areas impossible to penetrate. The first trek we accomplished very little. While preparations were made for a second attempt, I contacted the well respected psychic, Ingo Swann, and asked him to take a crack at it.

He accompanied us on the second try and we came up dry. At the same time there was a group led by a Rick Gillespie who was also searching for the lost plane. Interestingly he didn’t know about our efforts. None of us wished to join his organization because he lived on media hype. And my feeling has always been not to make a big deal out of an expedition unless you can prove you actually discovered your intended target.

Swann later arranged for an experiment with several other psychics. Strange as it seems, working separately they all put the downed aircraft within a quarter of a mile from each other’s projections on the southern slope of the Round Hills near Round Lake.

What can I say. We combed the area foot by foot on the third attempt. The White Bird isn’t there.

The search goes on, however. No one wants to quit.

My personal theory, two in fact, is that it did not come down near where Anson Berry heard it, but some miles further south. Or, and I like this over any others, the plane went down in an impenetrable bog and chances of it ever being found are quite nil.

24 Responses to White Bird

  1. Colonel Tom says:

    I heard that the compass was found in the woods and ended up being sold at a flea market in Maine and is now back in the hands of the family? is this correct? if so it proves the plane crashed in Maine, and what about the propeller? wouldn’t that be hanging on some hunters bedroom wall it was a very large unusual propeller. sounds more feaseable its underwater off Newfoundland and not discovered yet Colonel Tom

  2. james says:

    Off subject but myself and my children love and respect what you do! Bringing things lost to everyone back so we can all enjoy! And not for press but for love of history! Thank you for being you.

  3. Woody Peard says:

    I’m headed overseas this fall to do a GPR survey of an area in the Marshall Islands, where I have a photo of Japanese soldiers burying aircraft parts during WW2. I agree with you Clive, Ric Gillespie is powered by media hype and a complete lack of conclusive evidence that Earhart crashed there. He has one clue that places someone there that was involved with Earhart’s disappearance, but he doesn’t know what he has. If I had NUMA’s resources I could solve the mystery in 90 days. I’ve been doing it all out of pocket for over 14 years. That’s how it goes!

  4. Don C. Petersen says:

    I understand they just recently uncovered a photograph of plane wreckage near that area.sounds like its worth investigating. and what a find it would be.
    Don C.Petersen

  5. Eric Hall says:

    I just don’t understand these researchers busily taking gratuitous potshots at each other. It really is sad, if not shameful, to see it.
    Maybe if all of these intelligent people climbed down off their egos, stopped trying to score points off each other and learnt how to co-operate, the cause of science and research would advance 100 years overnight.

  6. Chris says:

    Of course, if they had indeed made it to Maine, it wouldn’t have been what they set out to accomplish, nor negate what Lindbergh did–become the first person to fly from either New York to Paris or Paris to New York (which is what Nungesser and Coli were trying to do). Also, as we know, Lindbergh was the first to fly solo across the Atlantic, and, despite what the New York Times stupidly wrote in an article many years ago, it would not “alter history” and not “change the fact that Lindbergh was the first to make it across solo by plane” (paraphrasing)…(duh! Nungesser and Coli = two people in the cockpit!). The truth is that two pilots named Alcock and Brown co-flew the Atlantic non-stop from Newfoundland to Ireland in 1919…Nevetheless, it would be great to know they might have at least made it–even if it was to Maine…still sad, however, that they did not make it alive….

  7. Anthony M. Zeller says:

    Love the work you do. Can’t get enough of your books. It’s all top notch writing. Hopefully, one day you will discover The resting place of the White Bird and then the pilots can be returned home for a heroes burial. Interesting movie was out several years ago about two young kids. They found the wreckage of the White Bird and had an adventure helping the spirits of the pilots finish their flight. Have you heard of this Movie? Can’t remember the title but it is a very interesting movie.

  8. steven seavey says:

    I live on the coast of maine in washington county.I was a commercial diver here for many years.at the end of every season I would take a special soap and do a fresh water dive to get all the salt out of my gear,low and behold one year I decided to do a drift dive for something fun and different,and came across the strangest object that I’ve seen in the waters of maine to date.A huge airplane propeller sticking out of the silt.Sir, I think that I have the location of your missing plane.As a matter of fact, knowing what I do now, I’m Quite sure of it.I would love to be involved with a project with such historical significance.

  9. Will Collier says:

    I dive with several PADI certified “Weed Control” divers in a lake on the NH / Maine border. We constantly work in near-zero and zero vis conditions harvesting Milfoil (a **nasty** weed) from our lake as a volunteer effort. If what Steve Seavey says is true, (above) I can gather a team to document / inspect / recover (as allowed by Maine law) artifacts as we live about 1 or 2 hour(s) away from that area.

  10. Emmanuel Caubet says:

    As a Frenchman living in East Machias and fascinated by the story of Nungesser and Coly, if what says Steven Seavey is correct, let us know where he thinks may be the plane is located. We could help him all together to solve this mystery.

  11. Don Driscoll says:

    Since 2009 a group from France headed by Bernard Decre has been searching for the l’Oiseau Blanc and have concentrated their efforts in the waters off St. Pierre-Miquelon off the south coast of Newfoundland but so far with no results to show. Indeed from their website “La Recherche de l’Oiseau Blanc” and the recent documentary “le mystere de l’Oiseau Blanc”. (on Youtube) they appear to be still considering a number of different localities ranging from St. Pierre to Maine to the Saguenay region of Quebec.However I believe that Decre has not done his research correctly. Indeed one of their maps with their projected path of l’Oiseau Blanc shows the aircraft wandering about Newfoundland like a drunken sailor.

    so here’s some food for thought about the disappearance of l’Oiseau Blanc, it’s lengthy but I believe may be something to consider.

    Back in the mid 70’s I heard a story from an older co-worker who claimed he had seen a plane in a pond in Newfoundland. He said he could see names on the plane and gave me two English names, which I later looked up and found to be those of pilots of a missing transatlantic flight. But he only would give me the general area where he said he saw the plane and he expressed no interest in pursuing the matter further. I looked for a long time over all the aerial photos I could (I had access to vast quantities of aerial photos) , concentrating on the Cape Shore area in Newfoundland, however I could see nothing of interest, so the subject gradually faded from memory as well as the names of the pilots. So when news came out in the early 90’s about a group called TIGHAR trying to find a “plane in the pond” in Newfoundland my interest in the old story was rekindled. However TIGHAR was looking for a missing French plane, the May 1927 l’Oiseau Blanc transatlantic attempt which I had never heard of. All of TIGHAR’s many searches failed to locate the l’Oiseau Blanc.

    I have for some time been trying to piece together logical bits of information as to where the airplane might have flown. I concluded, based on the searching that has been done so far, that it would be best to start by going back to the basics. Where did the preponderance of reported observations come from? It was from at least 11 persons in the Harbour Grace/Bay de Verde Peninsula area of Newfoundland. What did the sworn eyewitness statements say? That a white plane was seen or noise of an airplane was heard coming from the northeast flying to the southwest to Harbour Grace.

    If one looks at the contemporary accounts from numerous persons living in the Harbour Grace area at the time, the sworn statement of a young man James Peddle must not be ignored. To quote from the May 14 edition of the St. John’s Telegram – “James Peddle, aged eighteen, a laborer, was working on the Cottage Road (in Harbour Grace) on Monday morning not far from aerodrome, used some years ago by the Handley Page which was stationed there, when he heard sounds as of a plane out in a north east direction towards the island of Bacalieu. “About two minutes afterwards,” he said, “I saw what I am positive was an aeroplane of a white colour coming over the land from the north east bearing about South West for a few minutes. Then it passed quickly to the South for a few seconds, and then changed its course to northwest half north. It continued on that course which to the best of my judgment would put her on a line to the North of Harbour Grace. It continued on that course till I lost sight of her.”

    Then unconfirmed accounts say that two persons living about five miles west of Harbour Grace heard sounds on last Monday morning (May 9) similar to that made by a plane. If one assumes these accounts are correct then the aircraft could have been on the course stated by Peddle and would probably have continued on this course towards Come by Chance and then towards the Swift Current (Burin Peninsula) area.

    Another quote from the same paper is as follows “A message has been received from the Prime Minister, from Major Cotton (a very experienced pioneer pilot operating in Newfoundland), at present at Detroit, expressing the opinion that if the reports from Harbour Grace are authentic, the chances are that the aeroplane may have made a forced descent in the country west of Come by Chance in the direction of Port aux Basques”.

    Bernard Decre states that in July of 2011 they found “new evidence” in a copy of a St. Pierre paper “the Echo Paroissial N°41 of May-June 1927” with news from Swift Current that the sound of an airplane motor was heard “in the mountain” 13 km to the west in the Hermitage Bay.

    This is in obvious reference to a Mr. Fletcher Beck’s testimony (however the reference to Hermitage Bay is incorrect as it would actually be Placentia Bay). The information I obtained regarding the Swift Current is news is as follows ”Mr. Fletcher Beck of Swift Current, Placentia Bay, who heard the noise of a plane overhead Monday about noon. Beck was 13 miles in the country at the time and a dense fog prevailed. According to the sound, Beck states that the plane was traveling in a westerly direction”. Parts of Placentia Bay area are notorious for fog, particularly in the Isthmus of Avalon area. It could be a fine summer day elsewhere but socked in with fog in this area.

    The first 56 miles of a flight line from Harbour Grace to Swift Current area would require at times a minimum flying altitude of 700 feet ASL to clear the terrain. After that there are a number of surprising peaks in the Pipers Hole River area up to 1100 feet high. After passing these peaks (“mountains”) the terrain would be relatively level at the 6-700 foot elevation for a considerable distance.

    So now I had a location problem – where would 13 miles from Swift Current have placed Mr. Beck in 1927? He obviously had to be west of Swift Current but how would he know his distance (13 miles), how and where would he have crossed Pipers Hole River and where and in which direction would he go from there to hunt? Note that there were no roads in that area at that time. Some time later while working on another project it hit me – I realized that there was an uncompleted and abandoned railway branch line that was built through Swift Current on its way from Goobies to Terrenceville, Some 40 miles was completed but abandoned in 1915 unused – a perfect easy route to use to go into the country. No doubt that Beck would have used this relatively new railbed to go hunting. This branch also had a railway bridge crossing Pipers Hole River and it would be easy to hunt along this railbed and to know where you were even in the fog. And it also would have been easy for Beck to get back to Swift Current fairly quickly (maybe 4 or 5 hours walking and less on horseback) and easily with information even in dense foggy conditions. You just stay on the railbed and you can’t go wrong.

    So if one follows the old abandoned railbed from Swift Current west for about 13 miles you will end up in front and east of an over one mile long 1050 foot elevation “mountain” west of and rising about 400 to 600 feet above the railbed. This is probably “the mountain” referred to in the St. Pierre article mentioned above. Beck would have been at an elevation on the railbed of about 500 feet ASL and there was dense fog so one could presume the fog in the area was at least as low as the 500 foot ASL, and Beck says he heard an airplane motor but did not see a plane.

    So this all fits in with the reports at the time, and if this was the flight path, then if the l’oiseau Blanc cleared the “mountain”, they could have ended up somewhere along Newfoundland’s south coast or in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, not on the Cape Shore nor in the St. Pierre/Miquelon area. Unfortunately a a considerable portion of the potential route west of “the mountain” is comprised of difficult boggy terrain.

    So if anyone wants to pursue this avenue further, I would be pleased to assist.

  12. Barry Todd says:

    Mr Steven Seavey, 42, of Machias, Maine sadly passed away in 2014. Was this the gentleman that found the propellor in a body of water in Maine and contacted you folks in 2013? His obit said he loved being on the water in Maine. Good Luck looking for L’Oiseau Blanc, Barry in Woolwich, ME

  13. Cecilia says:

    I think I know the name of the movie Mr. Zeller was referring to. It’s called (Restless Spirits.) I have seen the movie twice and it was very interesting.

  14. ewan says:

    Does anyone know why they jettisoned their landing gear, it seems that without it finding a place to land would be a lot more difficult – I assume only on water


  15. Hello my friends, I am Bernard Decré, the french man who want to hunderstand this famous story…I am only a french private aviator fascinating by the White Bird story.
    I love America, and american people and I need your help
    Since 8 years I spend 50 hours a week on the White bird story…
    I have plenty of documents, pictures, I saw many people in Maine, Canada, Newfoundland, Saint Pierre and Miquelon…I saw many archivists, aircraft specialists…We had many TV ,press You can see my blog:
    Very shortly I would like to give you some documents, what we find in NARA (national Archives Records Administration) during 2009 to 2013:
    For exemple: A Us coast Guard telegram 18 August 1927:
    Coast Guard Division
    Norfolk Virginia
    …Piece of aircraft wing white in color fifteen feet long, four feet wide approximately stop similar piece appeared to be attached four feet submerged below floating part No appearances of marine growth ..
    Unquote it is suggested to headquarters that this may be the wreck of the Nungesser and Coli airplane stop Search therefor left to your discretion

    I find others us coast guard telegrams:
    20th May 1927
    C.G. 231 stood out to the CG 290 with Mr Crowley on board to investigate the finding of airplane wing found of f Hort Pond Bay
    C.G. 231 returned and tied up with part of airplane wing…verbal order…

    So I suppose the White Bird arrived to Newfoundland West coast near Harbour grace at 8th o clock am near Harbour grace, 31 hours from Paris, they went south to Cap Race, they saw a military navy, it was the US Coast Guard Modoc, and turned around it, to be recognize…Perhaps Modoc suppose she was a bootlegger’s plane?…so….
    A man who live at St Joseph Ste Mary’s bay saw the white plane with a white smoke going to the 320nw…
    At 11 or 12 am near Burin peninsula, going to Saint Pierre and Miquelon, a bootlegger fight against l’Oiseau Blanc, thinking she was a coast Guard Aircraft. The White Bird is at 35 hours from Paris, she can go further: only 200 liters of petrol are inboard…so they recognize the french Islands and want to stop…
    Remenber Saint Pierre and Miquelon is the best Prohibition area, and receive many and many boats from France and Europe with plenty of nice wines and alcools…
    We suppose the french aviators, after 35 hours of flight, after receiving shots from boats, perhaps one of the two pilots is out…The other pilot try to make a landing in front Saint Pierre’s harbour, but it was a very bad landing at 5 or 6 mn in the fog…He asked “Help Help…”people in St Pierre told us.
    So the wing went aways (look the telegrams)…but the fuselage with the three empty tanks float underwater during weeks and month to Maine’s Coast, with the engine in the Labrador current.
    We know where it could be.
    But what you must know:
    French and US Governments knew that real story, and prefer to say: they capsize in the Chanel, four or five hours after take off
    It was necessary to don’t disturb the fantastic story of Charles Lindbergh, who became a great Diplomate between our two countries. So it was necessary to destroy every traces of wrecks, or documents on the White Bird and forget them….
    It was necessary to write another story: they did not cross the Atlantic…
    So it is Why when we present our documents to FAI (Federation Aeronautique Internationale) in Lausanne , they were so surprise…and the 24th September 2015 we received the Award Prix Tissandier.
    What we want:
    To finish together: American and french, this story, we know US Coast Guard District One and Norfolk area tide up the pieces of wings.
    We are quite sure to definite the area where the fuselage and perhaps the engine could be: near Portland Maine. A fisherman give us a maritime map with precious indications…
    So why not to do the last research together?
    Best regards

  16. Rene Williams says:

    Clive once wrote that ‘wrecks will only be found when they are READY to be found.’
    Perhaps this should be dubbed ‘Cussler’s Law’ for those who seek to find lost artifacts of historical significance.

  17. Bill Robinson says:

    My name is Bill Robinson. I own and operate Robinson’s Cottages and Dennys River Guide Service on the Dennys River in Edmunds, ME in Washington County. There is no doubt that this plane is in the Round Lake/Township 19 area, as there has been too much information over the years for anyone to think otherwise. We have all heard the story of Anson Berry on Round Lake. I happened to know Harold Vining personally when I was very young. He said many years ago in an interview that he watched the plane circle his families farm in Cooper, ME before heading off toward the Round Lake Hills on the same day Anson said he heard the plane, the very day it was due to arrive in New York. In May 1927, seeing a plane in Cooper was rare to say the leasts.
    Many years went by. 1970-71 to be exact. My father was a Registered Maine Guide and was guiding deer hunters from out of state in the Round Lake Hills. The woods were abundant with deer in that area. One of the hunters came back to the car on the 19 Road with a compass that looked like it belonged in the wheel house of a ship. It was that big. Odd. Why is there a large compass up here in these woods? The next day, another hunter carried out what appeared to be some sort of a generator which I can only assume was used to run the lights on the air plane, perhaps not, but that day something that was uncovered that is proof to my father, myself, and all who know us as friends and family that this plane is indeed buried in the dirt, undergrowth, and twisted forests of the now clear-cut and grown-in Township 19.
    My father stopped to take a break. He described the spot he stopped as steep with boulders here and there and big trees. It didn’t take him long to notice that he was standing in an area where a fire had occured, as many of the standing trees were burnt black along with a few that had fallen over in time. My dad rested up against what he thought was a rock, and leaned his 30-30 Winchester rifle against said rock. As he looked around he noticed a piece of metal protruding through the moss and it was then his curiosity got the best of him. He started removing the leaves, topsoil, and moss from this large object and soon realized it was a large engine. My father, being mechanically inclined at a young age soon realized it was a large V-twin and everything on it was in metric. It was by now settled deep in the ground but not deep enough to prevent him from discovering that on the front end of this enormous engine was what appeared to be a spline shaft. My father had no reason to think that this was anything of significance as there was no search, no evidence, no news reports, just a plane lost in time with no bearing or heading or positive point, nor had he ever even heard of The White Bird.
    Years have passed and my father was interviewed about his discovery, and as much as he has tried to remember the exact location of these finds to no avail. Since then, the forests in Township 19 have been clear-cut. Many miles of gravel roads built. This plane could now be under a road, or ground deeper into the ground by heavy forest equipment, or possibly even salvaged by a wood cutter. No one knows, but I do know this: Too much evidence and too many personal accounts are enough for me to say that the White Bird did indeed crash in the area of the Round Lake Hills. You can’t make this stuff up. I never knew Anson Berry but I did know Harold and my father swears to all of this still today.

  18. David Mcgrath says:

    You know as well as me that the White Bird went down in a pond in southeastern Newfoundland. Why didn’t Mr..Decre investigate the search that NUMA didn’t in the Great Gull Pond where the actual plane crash was sighted in 1928. Seems strange to me that little was made of the search . It pure happened in my backyard. It would be so easy to retrieve the engine and either hide or destroy it then all the glory would stay with Charles Lindberg. I am in no way putting Mr. Lindberg down as he is a hero and a big one at that but right is right and who is covering up what.

  19. Joshua Gillespie says:

    I’ve recently dug into the ill-fated flight of PL.8.01 as research for a work in progress. Being former Navy and having some experience in air mishap investigation…I’m hoping to come across something “new”. My study currently has me looking at the area just SW of the “Old Route 9” near China, ME. There’s a nice, long lake there, in line with their flight path that coincides with the ’58 story…There’s even a seaplane base there today…so it makes on think. I’ve also spoken with other researches, to include Mr. Gillespie’s team (no relation I’m afraid)…and they have some good material regarding Newfoundland. I wouldn’t presume to discount anyone’s theory arising from good research and expedition work…but I too feel that if they went down in that region of ME, there’s good chance whatever’s left is long since buried, salvaged, or in someone’s shed.

  20. Dear friends
    I come again on this discussion very interesting…
    Since 2007 I spend 50 hours a week to that Research.
    I went in 2016 to The Round Lake, we meet some people who knew the story…
    But Honestly I can’t imagine Charles Nungesser want to land on a lake with his plane…because if he land on the cold water it is impossible for him to join the coast..they are sure to dive…(Excuse my bad english language)
    Look my blog: http://loiseaublanc
    We find in US Archives the prove US Coast guards from District One, said:
    “we find pieces of white wings, from Nungesser and Coli’s Plane”…CG 230, 240 and 290 “Tied up the pieces of wings “with Mr Crowley on Board….
    The FAI (Fédération Aéronautique Internationale), study our report (200 pages), with copies of many telegrams, archives from US archivists, newspapers 1927…
    What we understand is simple: They Try to land on the water in front SainT pierre and Miquelon, french small islands, after crossing on NewFoundland. What is sure they flight during 33 hours from Paris, they had 3800 liters of petrol at Le Bourget when they take off…Their Lorraine Dietrich engine 450HP drink 100liters/hour!
    So arriving near Saint Pierre they had only One hour and half to go further…To go Where?…Impossible to go to Newscotland or Maine…So they try to land inn front Saint Pierre, but IT WAS A GREAT PROHIBITION AREA, a sort of war between bootleggers and US coast Guards…
    You can imagine; bootleggers suppose it was a US Coastguard plane…and US Coast Guard suppose it was a bootlegger’s plane. The White Bird had been shot by them….
    And try to land on the water in very bad conditions.
    SO we give our report to the FAI in 2014, new reports in 2015, and after studying it they dress to me an invitation to be in the 109° Assises in Rotterdam, the 23 september 2015, where 35 nations were present to give me the prestigious Award “Tissandier”fot the results of our research…
    OK but if we collect 95% of the puzzle, some pieces are not there.
    It is absolutly clear we must make an American) French meeting together, to explain every parts of that puzzle.
    We must understand mysterious even,t near the Round Lake, what did exactly the two Associations NUMA and TIGHAR…
    We must consider it was necessary to “delate” to efface the “L’Oiseau Blanc”tracks, because Charlse Lindbergh, twelve days after became The Greatest Heros in the word, and became a real Diplomate between our Two Countries: USA and France.
    Remember in 1927 France and US spoke about War’s Debt 14 -18…and we can suppose it was necessary to don’t disturb our negociations
    We can give you documents about that from US Congress, with Hamilton Stuyvesant Fish Jr III and our French Mission in October 1931 in washington, where “negociations” on the White Bird , …and the decision of our two governments to say; :”They didn’t cross, they capsize in the Chanel…So Dont Worry
    I ma only a private pilot, I like America and American people. I want only to prepare with you a great party with American lobsters and french Wine to only say the true…
    Remenber Charles Nungesser’s Story: he make 55 Airshow in USA with the help of American Legion, he made a movie in Hollywood: “The Sky Reader”, his wife Consuelo was American, the daughter of Mr Hatmaker, the private secretary of The famous Vanderbilt….
    What a story
    Please, i have documents , films, and may thinks who could interest every people who want the True, only the True…
    Why not to organise together in USA, with Media, Aviation Associations …a conference.
    Well I dont speak english so well, but…Internet is so fantastic, like a message in a “bottle in the Air”?
    My very best regards to all of you
    Happy new Year

  21. David McGrath says:

    Mr. Decre
    I realize your great interest in the search for those two great aviation hero’s. Yes they did an incredible feat. What I do not understand is why you still believe that The White Bird wend down close to the two French Islands just off the coast of Newfoundland. It has been said from years back, including yourself that there was a conspiracy to cover up the crossing by Charles Nungesser and Francois Coli.
    I have tried to tell you where the White Bird crash landed. The NUMA expedition and TIGHAR driven by Clive Cussler and Rick Gillespie searched the pond that I know about for weeks in Newfoundland. I know an individual ,whom was with them and he confirmed that YES there was something in the pond. He would not give any other information. WHY. The mystery was solved by expedition Midnight Ghost, but we will never know OR will we. Mr. Cussler is very famous for forming the NUMA organization , very smart , talented have the best resources, and well able to raise money for his searches. After his search names Midnight Ghost why would he say that he was not sure if he even searched the right pond. This pond is only about 12 miles from where I live, they stayed in a cabin belonging to a cousin of mine. They had their homework done and knew exactly what pond they were searching in.
    Shortly there after the search Mr Cussler stated he had searched a lake , he knew he had searched a pond. Lakes go on and on for many miles, this pond is barely a mile long. Mr Cussler is on record for saying that the White Bird may have went down in a bog in Newfoundland and diminishes the chances of her ever being found. This would be exactly what he would want people to believe, But can you believe that a plane with a wing span of almost 50 feet could go down in a bog and disappear. Please Mr Cussler show me such a bog of that type here in Newfoundland. I surely believe that evidence was taken from the pond and will never be seen again.
    I am just a local person with a great interest and have knowledge of the sighting of the plane in the pond. I am willing to help you Mr. Decre if you really want to solve the Everest of Aviation Mysteries. Feel free to contact me. Good luck to everyone.

  22. DECRE Bernard says:

    Thanks to give your interesting informations
    We must try together to find the true…
    My mail is:
    and you can see our reports on Google:
    La recherche de l’Oiseau Blanc
    Best regards
    Bernard Decré

  23. DECRE Bernard says:

    Many thanks David
    Contact me by Google?

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